Dual network, not sending to Net 1

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   Okay, last year's D-LIght rs485 walked away, so we have two new V3 RS485 adapters, they were found as Com 4 and Com 5. I set Com 4 to Net 1 and Com 5 to Net 2.
The D-Light hardware utility sees each network/com port with and can detect the controllers, all tests work as expected though the hardware utility. 

So, then I fired up Aurora to get the cob webs out of the machine/cable/etc. I went to start the sho and only network 2 did anything.
I checked the breakers, good.
I checked HW Util, good.
I tried the sequence again, only net 2.
I removed/readded the networks, only data on net 2.
I chaned com 4 to com 6, and updated Aurora, still only net 2.
I tried swaping the USB ports, only net 2.

Somehow, after cables, networks, coms, changing everything I got data on BOTH net and net2, I let Aurora run the full sone, and set it to loop.
When the song restarted after ending with both networks working, I only had net 2 again???

What's going on?

Edit...

It would be usefull if I gave a bit on other info, wouldn't it?
I'm on Windows 2003
Both adapters are D-Light V3.
RS485 driver is the existing one from last year.
Aurora v1.0.69
Logged in ad admin.
Last year's Aruora was .41?, I did an uninstall, then reboot, then install.
Hardware util is 2.4.1

Edit again...

So at the end of the last test, I shut everything down. Then I though... hum... I wonder if it just needed one more reboot.
Well, The intro ran the first time correctlty, then when it looped again, I only had net 2!

What the frig?

Edited by Pony_God - 15 Nov 2009 at 6:50pm

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Pony_God Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 01 Sep 2008 Location: Naples, FL Online Status: Offline Posts: 551	Quote Reply Topic: Dual network, not sending to Net 1 Posted: 15 Nov 2009 at 6:17pm
	Okay, last year's D-LIght rs485 walked away, so we have two new V3 RS485 adapters, they were found as Com 4 and Com 5. I set Com 4 to Net 1 and Com 5 to Net 2. The D-Light hardware utility sees each network/com port with and can detect the controllers, all tests work as expected though the hardware utility. So, then I fired up Aurora to get the cob webs out of the machine/cable/etc. I went to start the sho and only network 2 did anything. I checked the breakers, good. I checked HW Util, good. I tried the sequence again, only net 2. I removed/readded the networks, only data on net 2. I chaned com 4 to com 6, and updated Aurora, still only net 2. I tried swaping the USB ports, only net 2. Somehow, after cables, networks, coms, changing everything I got data on BOTH net and net2, I let Aurora run the full sone, and set it to loop. When the song restarted after ending with both networks working, I only had net 2 again??? What's going on? Edit... It would be usefull if I gave a bit on other info, wouldn't it? I'm on Windows 2003 Both adapters are D-Light V3. RS485 driver is the existing one from last year. Aurora v1.0.69 Logged in ad admin. Last year's Aruora was .41?, I did an uninstall, then reboot, then install. Hardware util is 2.4.1 Edit again... So at the end of the last test, I shut everything down. Then I though... hum... I wonder if it just needed one more reboot. Well, The intro ran the first time correctlty, then when it looped again, I only had net 2! What the frig? Edited by Pony_God - 15 Nov 2009 at 6:50pm
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Jonathan Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Visit Members Homepage Add to Buddy List Beta Testers Joined: 07 Sep 2008 Location: SoCal Online Status: Offline Posts: 1237	Quote Reply Posted: 15 Nov 2009 at 7:25pm
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Pony_God Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 01 Sep 2008 Location: Naples, FL Online Status: Offline Posts: 551	Quote Reply Posted: 15 Nov 2009 at 7:38pm
	default/auto/56k I would guess from here. I never changed any of that from last year, always want with the default. I can try 19200 if you tink that do something usefull. I'll have to set that in the HW util, and Auora, right?
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LightsOnLogan Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 11 Oct 2007 Online Status: Offline Posts: 3187	Quote Reply Posted: 16 Nov 2009 at 8:51am
	In the Aurora settings (not HWUtil): 56000 or 115200 are the best speeds to run depending on your hardware. D-Light is now standardizing on 115200, so if you are using new firmware on all of the controllers then 115200 should be fine (although 56000 is still supported if you run into issues at 115200). Some older firmwares have some glitches at that rate, but those have been long gone for a while now. LOR used to require 56000, but they have supported 115200 for a couple years now without issue. 19200 works for debugging, but I really do not recommend it as at that slow speed it is really easy to congest the pipe. Are your controllers on network 1 receiving heartbeat (solid LED instead of blinking LED) when they are not responding to commands?


Pony_God Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 01 Sep 2008 Location: Naples, FL Online Status: Offline Posts: 551	Quote Reply Posted: 16 Nov 2009 at 9:16am
	Both controllers are currently using 1.15Beta1 from last year. So ramp the speed up? I can try that. I'll go both extremes just to see if anything works differently. I didn't check for the heartbeat since the HWutil could still communicate. I'll check on that as well.
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Pony_God Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 01 Sep 2008 Location: Naples, FL Online Status: Offline Posts: 551	Quote Reply Posted: 16 Nov 2009 at 11:19am
	Speed changed from 56k, to 19k, to 115k -- No changes (I asked about the util, to set the controller's speed, but it's auto isn't it?) Solid light on first loop for net1 (when responding), blinking there after for net1 (when not responding).
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LightsOnLogan Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 11 Oct 2007 Online Status: Offline Posts: 3187	Quote Reply Posted: 16 Nov 2009 at 12:18pm
	Can you swap the assignments around (COM4 on net 2, COM5 on net 1) to see if the problem follows the adapter or if it stays with the network assignment?


Pony_God Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 01 Sep 2008 Location: Naples, FL Online Status: Offline Posts: 551	Quote Reply Posted: 16 Nov 2009 at 12:41pm
	Sure can. Originally Com4 = Net1 & Com5 = Net2 (Net1 drops connection) Currently Com4 = Net2 & Com5 = Net1 (Net1 drops connection) Also, I tried moving from Com4 to Com6, but that did not change anything. Network speeds were at 115K.
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LightsOnLogan Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 11 Oct 2007 Online Status: Offline Posts: 3187	Quote Reply Posted: 16 Nov 2009 at 12:47pm
	It sounds like the port isn't releasing for some reason and Aurora thinks it is still in use. I know it sounds crazy, but I'm trying to record the exact failure mode here: What happens if you change Net 1 to Net 3 (this would give you a Net 2 and 3, but no Net 1)? Edited by LightsOnLogan - 16 Nov 2009 at 12:49pm


Pony_God Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 01 Sep 2008 Location: Naples, FL Online Status: Offline Posts: 551	Quote Reply Posted: 16 Nov 2009 at 1:11pm
	Exactly my thought. Well, that is NOT what I had expected to happen! With Com4 = Net3, Com5 = Net2 communication is stable and reliable though multiple loops. Everything works correctly. Now, I did use a V2 adapter last year, but I don't remember what Com port was used. I do see that in the Computer Manager that Com3 is concidered "In Use" though. So last year Net1 was a different adapter and possibly a different Com port. That was before the uninstall/install of 1.0.69 I did move two channels over to Net3 to make sure that there was some data going over the network. Edited by Pony_God - 16 Nov 2009 at 1:12pm
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